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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: A sad story-from a blog I found Reply with quote

A True Story Published in a Chinese Newspaper Few Years Back

This happened on a highway in China. Forty passengers, mostly males were on an inter-state bus. Halfway through the journey, two thugs on the bus suddenly went up to the lady bus driver and demanded that she stopped the bus and follow them to a waste grounds nearby. The lady driver refused and began to put up a fight against them.

At the same time, she cried out to the other passengers in the bus to help her. However, the other passengers not only cruelly turned a deaf ear to her cries, they even suggested that she give in to the thugs' demands so that they can carry on their journey quickly when they are done with her.

One young man amongst the passengers stood out to chide the rest of the passengers and tried to help the lady driver. However, sensing that the majority of the people do not have the guts to resist them, the thugs grew even bolder and beat up the young man. They then forcefully dragged the lady driver out of the bus. Right on the side of the road, the two thugs took turns to rape the lady driver while the rest watched.

After the thugs have satisfied their lust, they commanded the lady drive to return to the bus and resume with the journey. With tears streaming down her face, the lady driver begged that they
drive the righteous young man out of the bus as she is too ashamed to face him again.

The young man felt absolutely stupefied. So much for trying to speak up for the lady and now he is thrown out and left stranded on a desolated highway!

Hours later, when the lady driver passed by a mountainous cliff, she sped up and flung the whole bus with all its passengers over the cliff, right into the bottom of the valley.

This story was retold later by the only survivor of the journey - the righteous young man, Manjeet Singh who was driven out of the bus."

Recently there have been a spate of events that reveal the ugly side of our "civilised" society. Not so long ago, a Malaysian bus driver was viciously beaten up when he tried to stop a snatch
thief. He was surrounded by members of the public, watching with their arms folded.

I question myself. Have we gone from the stone age to become even more barbarous? Has the condition of the human heart degenerated to being no different from that of an animal? Did the lady bus driver commit suicide because she couldn't bear the shame of being raped or is it because she has given up on the humanity of "humans"?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'sonly human and it happens everywhere including Thailand Sad

I went home after work one day to discover that an accident happened and nobody bothered to send the poor guy to the hospital. My wife rushed up to me and asked me to send the guy to the hospital. So much for nam jai of Thais. They should really be ashamed of themselves. I suppose that they are afraid that the guy dripping blood over the car/pickup

another incident which happened
a machine operator got his hand cut and nobody bothered to send him to the hospital. Instead they knocked my door in the middle of the night and ask me to send the guy to the hospital. I gave the guy all I got in the pocket, 1500 baht and didn't even get a thank you card

IMO, most Thais are superfical
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO nowhere near as superficial as the cnuts on thaivisa who tell lies to people looking for visas to thailand.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, that's a sad story. It seems the lady did that partly because of the shame, partly as a payback to the selfish passengers on the bus.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: A shameless society Reply with quote

We are surrounded by these types of incidents everyday. On the street, in our schools, at work, and even in our homes. Whether it's getting involved to stop a crime in process or our childrens lifes. Everyone fears the possible repercussions.

I was in Hong Kong two weeks ago. While walking down the street I noticed two asian women walking toward me arm in arm. Following closely behind them was a man about their same age. As we were passing, the man reached up and grabbed one of the ladies purses. I grabbed his arm instinctively and yell "HEY." Everyone around us stopped. We just stared at each other for a few seconds but thinking back it seems like a long time. I had no idea what I was going to do next. I soon found out...it was the ladies husband. I ended up apologizing and they thanked me.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious??

Anyway good of you to take action but you will probably think twice about doing that again Wave Wave Wave Wave
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people can't help react when they see unjustice, while others can't help being helpless and fearfull. Hero stories are more on movies than in real life nowadays.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: It's the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth... Reply with quote

...so help me God. My wife wanted to kill me afterwards. We laugh about it today.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when in HK, no time to help

reminds me of an incident which happen mamy moons ago

It was Xmas eve, and nm brother, his friend and meself hop onto a cab to celebrate. There was a roundabout and a car cut into the taxi's path. The driver was angered and did another turn at the roundabout showing his displeasure. The other car then cut into the path, stopping the taxi. We were asked to leave as we have no business there (read as "none of your business") . We left and did not know what happen to the taxi driver. 5 minutes after midnight, I decided to make a police report and who did we see? The taxi driver, bruised, making a police report.

Moral of the story?

Offer help if you stay long (read as understanding the culture)
As tourist, get lost. (read as none of your biz)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good advice
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: making a difference Reply with quote

I understand and can appreciate your position however, I think the specific incident determines the actions, not the length of time one spends at a location. As an example, I would never even think to interfere with a parent disciplining their child in public. I'm a firm believer in appropriate child behavor and respecting their parents. I would not stand by however and watch an adult violently beat a child, whether I had lived there years or had just got off the plane...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: making a difference Reply with quote

Edward Gilson wrote:
I understand and can appreciate your position however, I think the specific incident determines the actions, not the length of time one spends at a location. As an example, I would never even think to interfere with a parent disciplining their child in public. I'm a firm believer in appropriate child behavor and respecting their parents. I would not stand by however and watch an adult violently beat a child, whether I had lived there years or had just got off the plane...

Agreed

and that reminds of an incident that happened myabe 10 years ago-- a thai was sort of beating on his child outside my ex-restaurant in Chaingrai.

One of our members ( a lurker) went over and literally picked up this thai man and carried him to the police booth about 100 meters around the corner

Definateley appropriate action.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: making a difference Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
Edward Gilson wrote:
I understand and can appreciate your position however, I think the specific incident determines the actions, not the length of time one spends at a location. As an example, I would never even think to interfere with a parent disciplining their child in public. I'm a firm believer in appropriate child behavor and respecting their parents. I would not stand by however and watch an adult violently beat a child, whether I had lived there years or had just got off the plane...

Agreed

and that reminds of an incident that happened myabe 10 years ago-- a thai was sort of beating on his child outside my ex-restaurant in Chaingrai.

One of our members ( a lurker) went over and literally picked up this thai man and carried him to the police booth about 100 meters around the corner

Definateley appropriate action.




Perhaps by our Western Standards...... but please go on and tell us , as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story... what happened to the Thai man, was he the childs father, what happened to the individual who did the carrying to the police station and due to the loss of face by the thai man were there any repercussions directed toward him later ...

and please read, in no way am I condoning physical violence by any adult on a child... but there are some missing points here like when you say 'sort of beating'..... Question Question
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of beating .. I mean slapping around roughly-in anger.

There were no repercussions-- I dont know what happened at the police station. The thai was drunk-actually a relative of one of the reatuarant waitresses..
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