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carioca · Plebian Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 55 Location: Korea

I got this off of the Yahoo! news. I would call this man a patriot as much as the next person.

Ground Zero Suicide Driven by Election

NEW YORK - A 25-year-old man from Georgia who was apparently distraught over President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero. Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits site, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman said.
Veal's mother said her son was upset about the result of the presidential election and had driven to New York, Gus Danese, president of the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association, told The New York Times in Sunday's editions.
Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry.
"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was symbolic."
Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

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[quote="carioca"]I got this off of the Yahoo! news. I would call this man a patriot as much as the next person.

If this is what you really think then I see that you have achieved your goals in life as I noticed that your aim in life is to escape reality,,You must have found some real heavy duty smoke in Korea., or is it something you are shooting in your veins..
Myabe you should consider quitting HUFFING gas filler pipes of automobiles. Shocked

Mike · Site Admin Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 4359 Location:

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Yes I can,,Hasta La Vista..Senior.

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EXPAT- Do you really think that some crackerjack making a news post about some mentaly unbalanced fool blowing his brains out with a shotgun and then putting his own editorial comment on it that this fool was a patriot for killing him self because a republican won an election deserves an intelligent reply??

Especially when he lists his interests as "Escaping Reality"

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Carioca; Do you really think someone is a patriot for killing himself over an election? More like maybe brainwashed by the liberals who have used every dirty trick in the book & invented a few new ones in this recent election, What with their innuendos, Outright lies & often false attempts to sway the public, Lay the blame where the finger points.

Maybe in Korea that would be acceptable , But not in the real world, I see no patriotism in suicide for any reason.

Mike · Site Admin Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 4359 Location:

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expat;;How very correct you are,,I hang my head in shame,,I will go and whip myself til the blood drips from my back.

CARIOCA, Please accept my heart felt apology,,I was wrong to say such things in my reply to your most informing editorial comment to the REAL PATRIOT suicide.

I should know better and should realise what a true PATRIOT is after serving my country in 2 armed conflicts.

I really did enjoy Korea tho. Very good drugs,Lots better than the trash they had in Nam, as it seems you have discovered.

Mike · Site Admin Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 4359 Location:

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Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida
Boca Raton trauma specialist has treated 15 patients

Published Tuesday, November 9, 2004
by Sean Salai

More than a dozen traumatized John Kerry supporters have sought and received therapy from a licensed Florida psychologist since their candidate lost to President Bush, the Boca Raton News learned Monday.
Boca Raton trauma specialist Douglas Schooler said he has treated 15 clients and friends with “intense hypnotherapy” since the Democratic nominee conceded last Wednesday.
“I had one friend tell me he’s never been so depressed and angry in his life,” Schooler said. “I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated.”
Schooler’s disclosure comes after the weekend discovery of a Kerry volunteer’s corpse at Ground Zero in New York City. Georgia resident Andrew Veal, 25, reportedly killed himself with a shotgun blast to the head due to Kerry’s loss and a girlfriend problem.
Some mental health professionals in South Florida said Monday they have already developed a new category for the Kerry-related stress reactions. Because Palm Beach County voted heavily for Kerry, the therapists said, many residents hurt themselves by so anxiously expecting the Massachusetts senator to win – especially those who maintained unrealistic recount hopes after their candidate’s concession.
“We’re calling it ‘post-election selection trauma’ and we’re working to develop a counseling program for it,” said Rob Gordon, the Boca-based executive director of the American Health Association. “It’s like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it’s a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma.”
Gordon, the first American Red Cross psychotherapist sent to Ground Zero after the 9/11 terror attacks, said therapists’ main concern is to prevent the recurrence of Kerry-related suicides like the one in New York City.
“There are definitely people depressed by John Kerry’s loss, and this can easily lead to suicides like the one we saw up in New York this weekend,” Gordon said. “Luckily, it can be treated if people seek help. We’re urging people to call us immediately if they feel depressed or know anyone who is seriously stressed out.”
Also in Boca, at least one counseling center and an emotional support group were preparing for an influx of Kerry supporters at their first post-election meetings today.
“We’ll let the Kerry voters talk about it and let off some steam, and by listening to other people’s stories, we’ll help them refocus and surrender to the things in their life which they can’t possibly change,” said a spokeswoman for Emotions Anonymous, a recovery group meeting tonight at Glades Presbyterian Church.
“We’re referring people with election-related stress to the Democratic National Committee,” said Karen Jacobs of the Center for Group Counseling. “We’ll do what we can for anyone who shows up for our support group programs this week, but we haven’t implemented a specific program for Kerry-related trauma.”
Schooler, practicing in Boca since 1984, said he treated his 15 patients last week with hypnosis-based rapid response trauma therapy. This week, he is charging a sliding fee to non-clients who feel they need the one-time “election therapy” session. South Floridians can contact him at 561-395-3033.
“A lot of Kerry voters don’t know what to do with their anger, because there was no recount, so they’ve kept it bottled up,” said Schooler, who also is a certified sex therapist. “I help them transform the anger into more positive emotions.”
Asked to describe symptoms of the post-election trauma, Schooler said, “They include feelings of extreme anger, despair, hopelessness, powerlessness, a failure to function behaviorally, a sense of disillusionment, of not wanting to vote anymore – that sort of thing. We’re talking about a deep, unhealthy personal suffering that can best be remedied by intensive short-term therapy.”

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Looks to me like they would try to keep this stuff secret,,at least the Demos, and party affiliates.

Makes you wonder if the whole Demo party is a little unstable, Kerry for sure is and it don't look to good for his followers.

Could be that they are all suicidal paranoid drunks just like the leader, T. Kennedy.

Maybe he can take em all over to Hanoi where he is really appreciated.

Tiger Smart · Cohort Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 281 Location:

One recalls the world-famous photo of the suicide by the Buddhist monk who doused himself in gasoline and set himself on fire without flinching in order to protest the Vietnam War.

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One also recalls that ARVN officer that shot that VC prisoner in the head with a pistol and never flinched either. So just proves it takes all kinds of nuts to do those things.