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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RahulDG wrote:
Simon-Hrb wrote:
O.K.... Football Fantasy teams are an old thing.... What we need is a CFE....

Yep Cricket Fantasy Eleven......

If you could choose any player, from any team or country from the last 50 years to be on your team, who would they be?.......


OK, a cricket fantasy 11 ... let's see ... Very Happy ... I'm gonna choose a team for BOTH one day matches and Tests ...

The first spot would be a CLOSE tie between Adam Gilchrist (pure opening batsman here) and Andy Flower, but Andy misses out due to pure hitting power up top!
Sanath Jayasurya!! (Anwar narrowly misses out here).
Ricky Ponting (Absolutely NO argument here)
Sir Viv Richards! (ditto)
BC Lara! (ditto)
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (Andy Flower, perhaps, but then I chose Inzi after all ... )
Roberts! (I'm sure the last four need NO explanation!)
Holding!
Croft!
Garner!
The LAST spot is a tie between Warne and Murali (though with these pacers, who needs spinners?) Wink

Note Sachin doesnt get a look in Twisted Evil, neither does Glenn Mc Grath (though he would if there was room for another bowler).

Neither does Steve Waugh (note this is both for one dayers and Tests), and neither does Mark Waugh! Hayden misses out too ...

The Don would be in the team, but you said past 50 years! Very Happy

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My dear boy, I would normally never be so brash but I can only conclude that you are going steady with Colin Croft's daughter and have designs on Andy Flower's sister. I shan't even comment on some of the other choices.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathon Quibble wrote:
RahulDG wrote:
Simon-Hrb wrote:
O.K.... Football Fantasy teams are an old thing.... What we need is a CFE....

Yep Cricket Fantasy Eleven......

If you could choose any player, from any team or country from the last 50 years to be on your team, who would they be?.......


OK, a cricket fantasy 11 ... let's see ... Very Happy ... I'm gonna choose a team for BOTH one day matches and Tests ...

The first spot would be a CLOSE tie between Adam Gilchrist (pure opening batsman here) and Andy Flower, but Andy misses out due to pure hitting power up top!
Sanath Jayasurya!! (Anwar narrowly misses out here).
Ricky Ponting (Absolutely NO argument here)
Sir Viv Richards! (ditto)
BC Lara! (ditto)
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (Andy Flower, perhaps, but then I chose Inzi after all ... )
Roberts! (I'm sure the last four need NO explanation!)
Holding!
Croft!
Garner!
The LAST spot is a tie between Warne and Murali (though with these pacers, who needs spinners?) Wink

Note Sachin doesnt get a look in Twisted Evil, neither does Glenn Mc Grath (though he would if there was room for another bowler).

Neither does Steve Waugh (note this is both for one dayers and Tests), and neither does Mark Waugh! Hayden misses out too ...

The Don would be in the team, but you said past 50 years! Very Happy

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My dear boy, I would normally never be so brash but I can only conclude that you are going steady with Colin Croft's daughter and have designs on Andy Flower's sister. I shan't even comment on some of the other choices.


Quibble, were you drunk when you posted this?? Makes no sense to me whatsoever - would you be so kind as to explain? uhm

And who would you choose, anyway? Not many from the UK would deserve to be in the team anyway ... shake
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To select Flower, Croft and Inzamam in a team that is supposed to represent the best test cricket has to offer over the last 50 years is an injustice to the sport.

Although the phrase "the last 50 years" puts a severe limitation on the quality (Sir Len retired in 1955), let's have a look at my team:

Haynes
(BA) Richards
Ponting
Sobers (c)
Border
Botham
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee

Richards is a rather bold selection (I concede) because he only played a handful of tests but this was through no fault of his own.

Sobers is also a controversial pick as captain but I must say, I always admired his love of the sporting declaration (not that the Jonathon Quibble XI would ever need to make one).

No need for a spinner either, but with five strike bowlers and four part-timers, I doubt one would be necessary. I would have picked Hedley Verity, but this ghastly fifty year limitation made that impossible.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed I um forgot all about this thread Embarassed

Will get back to you tomorrow with my XI Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathon Quibble wrote:
To select Flower, Croft and Inzamam in a team that is supposed to represent the best test cricket has to offer over the last 50 years is an injustice to the sport.

Although the phrase "the last 50 years" puts a severe limitation on the quality (Sir Len retired in 1955), let's have a look at my team:

Haynes
(BA) Richards
Ponting
Sobers (c)
Border
Botham
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee

Richards is a rather bold selection (I concede) because he only played a handful of tests but this was through no fault of his own.

Sobers is also a controversial pick as captain but I must say, I always admired his love of the sporting declaration (not that the Jonathon Quibble XI would ever need to make one).

No need for a spinner either, but with five strike bowlers and four part-timers, I doubt one would be necessary. I would have picked Hedley Verity, but this ghastly fifty year limitation made that impossible.


Quibble, you nut, first off I didnt simply select a Test team ...

RahulDG wrote:
I'm gonna choose a team for BOTH one day matches and Tests ...


As far as the 50 year limitation goes, well, not all of us were born in the 1sst century A.D Laughing That being said, the limitation does exclude Sir Don Bradman from the list.

Ok, now ... you pick Barry Richards ... on WHAT basis? uhm Your "only played a few matches" applies equally to Andy Flower by the way - he was in a weak team, and never got a chance to really "flower" - too much pressure on him, but take a look at his stats if you would, please Wink. He's one of those batters who never really got to display his full potential as he was keeping wicket full time, and also dealing with bailing the team out regularly on a full time basis ...

As for the Greenidge - Haynes combo, if this was a Test-only team, it'd probably work, but not for one dayers. No way, not when Jayasuriya is around!!

As for the bowlers, Hadlee and Lillee were deadly, but somehow they dont conjure up the same image as Holding, Croft and co. do ... shake shake

You didnt pick Sanath Jayasuriya - another glaring omission ... as for Inzy, he's one of the world's top batsmen ... if this was purely a one day team, he might have missed out, but this was for both Tests and one dayers.

As for not picking Viv Richards, your out of your mind is all I can say. Happens when you get older Wink.

Botham and Border ?????? uhm Shall we pick Mark Taylor too ??? Why not shove Michael Atherton, Robert Key (snicker, snicker), and Nasser Hussain (major snicker) while we're at it?? Sure, these were good players ... but really, I don't think they deserve a place in a team meant for both 1 day games and Tests. And I'd pick Wasim Akram ahead of Botham anyway Razz.

Last, but certainly not least, what kind of a nut leaves Lara out of a world XI??? uhm
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a gonna upset ya both now by throwing a spanner in the works Wink

I'm gonna go with a team of (still active) players Cool Cool
Not one of em Brittish........................oh well...

WK: Kumar Sangakkara

Bat: Mahela Jayawardene
Bat: Simon Katich
Bat: Boetta Dippenaar
Bat: Michael Clarke

AR: Andrew Symonds
AR: Andrew Hall

Bwl: Nathan Bracken
Bwl: Muttiah Muralitharan
Bwl: Brett Lee
Bwl: Malinga Bandara

Sure there are some better players out there from the last 50 years but I'm feeling controversial today Wink



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon-Hrb wrote:
I'm a gonna upset ya both now by throwing a spanner in the works Wink

I'm gonna go with a team of (still active) players Cool Cool
Not one of em Brittish........................oh well...

WK: Kumar Sangakkara

Bat: Mahela Jayawardene
Bat: Simon Katich
Bat: Boetta Dippenaar
Bat: Michael Clarke

AR: Andrew Symonds
AR: Andrew Hall

Bwl: Nathan Bracken
Bwl: Muttiah Muralitharan
Bwl: Brett Lee
Bwl: Malinga Bandara

Sure there are some better players out there from the last 50 years but I'm feeling controversial today Wink



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This would be a perfect example of the players that should NOT be chosen in a World XI comprising the best during the last 1/2 century. I mean when I see Mahela Jayawardene (ha, ha,ha) and Boeta (ho,ho,ho,ho,ho) in a playing XI comprising the world's best, it tickles me to death.

Not to mention Andrew Hall, Simon Katich and Malinga ... Laughing

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RahulDG wrote:
Jonathon Quibble wrote:
To select Flower, Croft and Inzamam in a team that is supposed to represent the best test cricket has to offer over the last 50 years is an injustice to the sport.

Although the phrase "the last 50 years" puts a severe limitation on the quality (Sir Len retired in 1955), let's have a look at my team:

Haynes
(BA) Richards
Ponting
Sobers (c)
Border
Botham
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee

Richards is a rather bold selection (I concede) because he only played a handful of tests but this was through no fault of his own.

Sobers is also a controversial pick as captain but I must say, I always admired his love of the sporting declaration (not that the Jonathon Quibble XI would ever need to make one).

No need for a spinner either, but with five strike bowlers and four part-timers, I doubt one would be necessary. I would have picked Hedley Verity, but this ghastly fifty year limitation made that impossible.


Quibble, you nut, first off I didnt simply select a Test team ...

RahulDG wrote:
I'm gonna choose a team for BOTH one day matches and Tests ...


As far as the 50 year limitation goes, well, not all of us were born in the 1sst century A.D Laughing That being said, the limitation does exclude Sir Don Bradman from the list.

Ok, now ... you pick Barry Richards ... on WHAT basis? uhm Your "only played a few matches" applies equally to Andy Flower by the way - he was in a weak team, and never got a chance to really "flower" - too much pressure on him, but take a look at his stats if you would, please Wink. He's one of those batters who never really got to display his full potential as he was keeping wicket full time, and also dealing with bailing the team out regularly on a full time basis ...

As for the Greenidge - Haynes combo, if this was a Test-only team, it'd probably work, but not for one dayers. No way, not when Jayasuriya is around!!

As for the bowlers, Hadlee and Lillee were deadly, but somehow they dont conjure up the same image as Holding, Croft and co. do ... shake shake

You didnt pick Sanath Jayasuriya - another glaring omission ... as for Inzy, he's one of the world's top batsmen ... if this was purely a one day team, he might have missed out, but this was for both Tests and one dayers.

As for not picking Viv Richards, your out of your mind is all I can say. Happens when you get older Wink.

Botham and Border ?????? uhm Shall we pick Mark Taylor too ??? Why not shove Michael Atherton, Robert Key (snicker, snicker), and Nasser Hussain (major snicker) while we're at it?? Sure, these were good players ... but really, I don't think they deserve a place in a team meant for both 1 day games and Tests. And I'd pick Wasim Akram ahead of Botham anyway Razz.

Last, but certainly not least, what kind of a nut leaves Lara out of a world XI??? uhm


Ahem, Rahul, you're getting ahead of the game here, I didn't specify that it had to be a test team and a one day team combined, it can be either or both, it doesn't matter and the honourable Mr.Quibble chose a test team, that's ok, it's his fantasy team. from the last 50 years!

Haynes, Ponting, Hadlee, Lilee, Trueman and Botham are all solid picks.

Likewise, Richards, Lara, Inzi and Warne are too.

To each, his own (fantasy XI)... Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon-Hrb wrote:
RahulDG wrote:
Jonathon Quibble wrote:
To select Flower, Croft and Inzamam in a team that is supposed to represent the best test cricket has to offer over the last 50 years is an injustice to the sport.

Although the phrase "the last 50 years" puts a severe limitation on the quality (Sir Len retired in 1955), let's have a look at my team:

Haynes
(BA) Richards
Ponting
Sobers (c)
Border
Botham
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Trueman
Lillee

Richards is a rather bold selection (I concede) because he only played a handful of tests but this was through no fault of his own.

Sobers is also a controversial pick as captain but I must say, I always admired his love of the sporting declaration (not that the Jonathon Quibble XI would ever need to make one).

No need for a spinner either, but with five strike bowlers and four part-timers, I doubt one would be necessary. I would have picked Hedley Verity, but this ghastly fifty year limitation made that impossible.


Quibble, you nut, first off I didnt simply select a Test team ...

RahulDG wrote:
I'm gonna choose a team for BOTH one day matches and Tests ...


As far as the 50 year limitation goes, well, not all of us were born in the 1sst century A.D Laughing That being said, the limitation does exclude Sir Don Bradman from the list.

Ok, now ... you pick Barry Richards ... on WHAT basis? uhm Your "only played a few matches" applies equally to Andy Flower by the way - he was in a weak team, and never got a chance to really "flower" - too much pressure on him, but take a look at his stats if you would, please Wink. He's one of those batters who never really got to display his full potential as he was keeping wicket full time, and also dealing with bailing the team out regularly on a full time basis ...

As for the Greenidge - Haynes combo, if this was a Test-only team, it'd probably work, but not for one dayers. No way, not when Jayasuriya is around!!

As for the bowlers, Hadlee and Lillee were deadly, but somehow they dont conjure up the same image as Holding, Croft and co. do ... shake shake

You didnt pick Sanath Jayasuriya - another glaring omission ... as for Inzy, he's one of the world's top batsmen ... if this was purely a one day team, he might have missed out, but this was for both Tests and one dayers.

As for not picking Viv Richards, your out of your mind is all I can say. Happens when you get older Wink.

Botham and Border ?????? uhm Shall we pick Mark Taylor too ??? Why not shove Michael Atherton, Robert Key (snicker, snicker), and Nasser Hussain (major snicker) while we're at it?? Sure, these were good players ... but really, I don't think they deserve a place in a team meant for both 1 day games and Tests. And I'd pick Wasim Akram ahead of Botham anyway Razz.

Last, but certainly not least, what kind of a nut leaves Lara out of a world XI??? uhm


Ahem, Rahul, you're getting ahead of the game here, I didn't specify that it had to be a test team and a one day team combined, it can be either or both, it doesn't matter and the honourable Mr.Quibble chose a test team, that's ok, it's his fantasy team. from the last 50 years!

Haynes, Ponting, Hadlee, Lilee, Trueman and Botham are all solid picks.

Likewise, Richards, Lara, Inzi and Warne are too.

To each, his own (fantasy XI)... Cool


lmao yes, your right, you didnt mention it had to be either or both ...

But the honorable Quibble rubbished some of my selections, when I had clearly mentioned it was for BOTH a test and one day team. Wink

In retrospect, I shouldn't have questioned your fantasy team though Wink (since it can be either Test or one day or both).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RahulDG wrote:

In retrospect, I shouldn't have questioned your fantasy team though Wink (since it can be either Test or one day or both).


This whole nonsense about test or one-day or both is as garbled as the Duckworth-Lewis method. If this were the case, our dear friend Simon-Hrb would have specified the last 35 years, as one has to consider that the first of these wretched one-day games was played in 1971 (I remember the year quite vivdly because I sent a letter of protest to the MCC). Thus, if the team is to be for both versions of the sport, then my selection of Trueman is invalid. But let's not overcomplicate things.


Simon-Hrb wrote:

I'm a gonna upset ya both now by throwing a spanner in the works

I'm gonna go with a team of (still active) players
Not one of em Brittish........................oh well...

WK: Kumar Sangakkara

Bat: Mahela Jayawardene
Bat: Simon Katich
Bat: Boetta Dippenaar
Bat: Michael Clarke

AR: Andrew Symonds
AR: Andrew Hall

Bwl: Nathan Bracken
Bwl: Muttiah Muralitharan
Bwl: Brett Lee
Bwl: Malinga Bandara

Sure there are some better players out there from the last 50 years but I'm feeling controversial today


I'm not sure if controversial is the right way to put it. Ill? Mischievous? Frankly not one of those players would make my current test XI.

But, as you pointed out, each to their own fantasy.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I could have named perhaps nine or ten great players from the past 50 years for my selection, but be damned if I could choose the final 2.

So I thought "what the hell, let's put a cat amongst the pidgeons"....
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No team is complete without Izzheeha Wanker at left front (slow)spinner-possibly the greatest test match player since Eunice Hartogs of the famed spiral era
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No team is complete without Izzheeha Wanker at left front (slow)spinner-possibly the greatest test match player since Eunice Hartogs of the famed spiral era


I must say, I haven't heard of either of those players. Have you perhaps hit your head on that desk a few too many times, old chap?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathon Quibble wrote:
RahulDG wrote:

In retrospect, I shouldn't have questioned your fantasy team though Wink (since it can be either Test or one day or both).


This whole nonsense about test or one-day or both is as garbled as the Duckworth-Lewis method. If this were the case, our dear friend Simon-Hrb would have specified the last 35 years, as one has to consider that the first of these wretched one-day games was played in 1971 (I remember the year quite vivdly because I sent a letter of protest to the MCC). Thus, if the team is to be for both versions of the sport, then my selection of Trueman is invalid. But let's not overcomplicate things.


Quibble, Duckworth Lewis does seem to a bit garbled, if not biased ... I sort of agree with you there.

But, I'm very glad the MCC didnt consider your letter of protest against the one day games. Laughing

So, let's keep "overcomplicating" things, Quibble Wink
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Sounds like you've had one too many brews there, Mike Wink
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