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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: Gov't plans to require all foreigners to carry IC cards for Reply with quote

Gov't plans to require all foreigners to carry IC cards for crime control

TOKYO — The Japanese government and the ruling Liberal Democratic Party plan to require all foreigners staying in Japan for more than 90 days to carry identification cards equipped with integrated circuit chips, with all data to be kept at an "intelligence center," party lawmakers said Tuesday.

The LDP and the government claim the new policy is aimed at keeping track of foreigners as part of measures to prevent terrorism and crimes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, fair enough. I have to carry one everywhere I go now anyway - it just doesn't have a chip in it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No invasion of privacy issues here?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. I think the benefit in this will outweigh the inconvenience I feel at being monitored. One could argue they have a right to do it uhm

If it were my own country I might be more concerned.

Besides I have nothing to hide Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most countries have , or are, introducing measures to keep track of, foreigners and / or their own citizens.

The standard excuse is "to prevent terrorism".

What you will never find is a decent and properly argued explanation of exactly HOW it will prevent terrorism.

It is the same as the US checking fngerprints of all arrivals.
IF they had the fingerprints of ALL terrorists, then it would be sensible.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting points there Alan. I suspect in many countries that seems to be the trend. There is a slightly different focus in Japan. The government wants to regulate the activities of Chinese and Korean residents. They have no qualms abut admitting this either Cool

Crimes permitted by Chinese nationals have been steadily increasing and measures were announced last week that will see police from China and Japan routinely exchange information occasion

One should be mindful of the stats though: according to the Ministry of Justice, there were 338,000 Chinese nationals living in Japan in 2003. in the same period, 3,038 crimes were committed by Chinese nationals. That's less than one percent even in the unlikely event that all 3038 crimes were committed by different people. There's actually a slightly lower crime rate among them than the Japanese themselves .....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hm... interesting..all my friends have AR cards... (but i dont since I'm Japanese / American and have Japanese nationality :p) Anywayz... that would be weird... IC Chipping them?

Doesn't Ishihara not like forgieners? <--one of my teachers is always like.... violent about him
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Doesn't Ishihara not like forgieners? <--one of my teachers is always like.... violent about him


It would appear so. I don't think the adding of the integrated circuit chips has much to do with disliking foreigners though. We already carry the cards - nothing new there - I just think the added feature is the logical next step. I don't really care because I have nothing to hide.

Andrew, as a Japanese national, how do you feel about your peers having to carry AR cards?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Andrew, as a Japanese national, how do you feel about your peers having to carry AR cards?

Hm... I dont know.. I guess its a form of ID. When someone asks for ID, what would you show? some ppl don't have drivers licenses.. soo.. I dont know... ARs are useful to a certain extent. BUT I dont like that fact that they call it ALIEN REGISTRATION Cards...
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andrew319 wrote:
BUT I dont like that fact that they call it ALIEN REGISTRATION Cards...


LOL, me neither Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hewer wrote:
andrew319 wrote:
BUT I dont like that fact that they call it ALIEN REGISTRATION Cards...


LOL, me neither Very Happy


I prefer something that fits the situation better, like in my case..... Inter-Planetary Inter-Galactic Comuters Card.... /// IPEE,I GCC for short...

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toopeekaa 1 wrote:
Hewer wrote:
andrew319 wrote:
BUT I dont like that fact that they call it ALIEN REGISTRATION Cards...


LOL, me neither Very Happy


I prefer something that fits the situation better, like in my case..... Inter-Planetary Inter-Galactic Comuters Card.... /// IPEE,I GCC for short...


Sounds like something from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Maybe that's the idea.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A chip inserted into the wrist or ear lobe would be a simpler form of ID to carry
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wocca wrote:
A chip inserted into the wrist or ear lobe would be a simpler form of ID to carry
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too costly... hehe... Crying or Very sad but that would be awesome... they should start inserting chips @ birth
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