Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: help needed about the strategy execution prolems
Hi everybody! I am doing a research project about strategy execution or implementation prolems , especially where westerners and Chinese are working together. i have got some hypothesis including corporate structure and communication and cultural differences. what's your ideas?
any information would be greatly apprieciated. thank you!
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: help needed about the strategy execution prolems
howell wrote:
Hi everybody! I am doing a research project about strategy execution or implementation prolems , especially where westerners and Chinese are working together. i have got some hypothesis including corporate structure and communication and cultural differences. what's your ideas?
any information would be greatly apprieciated. thank you!
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I work with thais in a multinational corporation. I was sent to china on a 1 week survey of IT systems and got a chance to work with some of the companies Beijing and Xiamen staff. I was impressed by the Chinese work ethic, curiosity, and general ambitiousness. On the other hand-the Chinese Manager kept on using the " You have to understand-we do things the Chinese way" excuse for everything.
thank you so much for replying. sometimes the Chinese way are not in accordance with the international norm maybe. and my question is to you, what's the problem with the Chinese way? can you give me any specific examples?
Using an online chat program a chinese will ask me for help about something.
After checking on the nature of the requestion I respond that I canot help but they should contact John Doe about that-- No more response from the chinese--no thank you.. no nothing-this has happened to me more than once and I have colleagues who have experienced the same thing-
i am sorry about your experences, but therea re always people who can consider you suggestions seriously an d be very grateful.
Of course they considered my suggestions-thats why they dropped the conversation so quickly-they got what they wanted so they moved on.
whether they were grateful I dont know-certainly they need some training in business etiquette _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
ok, in that case, i would like to tell you what my American friend and i did. She put some information under my topic and we emailed each other, and she comes to Beijing twice a week we talked about the topic and sit together and we are getting along pretty well. and she is very helpful and i am too. both of us enjoy helping each other . anyway, maybe there are people who don't know basic business etiques, but remember , the real chinese are like the good people else where, and they are getting more and more sophisticated and know how to do. thank you Mike.
I am not saying the chinese are not good people--while I was there I had a great time and would love to work there in the future. _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
Having been involved in a number of large-scale business transformation projects (Strategy development and execution) in the Greater China region, here is a summary of my experience. It is purely a general observation and does not apply to all Asians and Westerners in all situations:
* Westerners will have little problem distinguishing between Vision, Misson, Strategic Intent and Initiatives. Asians, on the other hand, are more comfortable with Tactics and Operational plans. Putting the two groups together in a Visioning workshop can be disastrous as Westerners will "waffle on" to the frustration of the Asians, who just want to get to the execution details.
* Westerners are more Process oriented than Asians. Hence when a mixed group is having a discussion, Westerners can find it challenging in trying to cope with the Asian style of thinking - constantly alternating between problem definition and solution development. Asians can develop a solution in an iterative fashion as issues are identified/uncovered. A good skill to have but difficult to manage as Westernets would like to review/revisit the solution as each new issue is tabled, while Asians are likely to want to defend their original solution against an onslaught of new issues/information.
* Asians tend to be circular thinkers. When asked what's the impact of their decision, they will answer by defending their decision. A briefing of their decision making process will follow - the Westerner will get to hear of the impact of the decision in the process, but in a painfully slow and roundabout way.
* Asians are more hospitable and inquisitive. They don't think it is rude to want to know about your age, income, family, and sometimes private matter during the first meeting. "Private space" is a term foreign to Asians as they are used to living in densely populated region.
* Westerners are good at report writing and presentation, both written and verbal. Asians tend to struggle with both these competencies. Hence it is important to assign team responsbility accordingly.
* Analytical ability is a strength of the Asians. However a broad framework / agenda must first be developed and exploded to a sufficient level of detail, otherwise the result can be unpredictable and sometimes disastrous.
*Asians can sometimes view relationship in a different way to Westerners. For example, if A is related to B, and B is related to C, and so forth. To the Asians, C/D/E etc is related to A, and hence will be included in their analysis and findings.
* What is commonly regarded as good etiquette in Western society is not necessarily so with Asians. For example, the common courtesy of thanking someone for helping out in a forum, problem solving, etc. is not second nature to Asians, who are not accustomed to asking for help and hence they seldom thank the person who helped.
* Asians have a tendency not to take Action Items from a meeting seriously. They can happily attend meetings after meetings without bothering to address their action items, particularly if they don't share the Westerner's view of the urgency of the item. What is more frustrating to the Westerner is the fact Asians will not want to explain why they think the item is not urgent.
* There is a tendency for Asians to hold the view "The boss is always right". If a Westerner wants an honest opinion on a particular subject, have a private and informal chat to the Asian subordinate.
I realise this is just a "brain dump" and generalisation. I am more than happy to share my experience in more detail and structured fashion. Write to my personal email address if you wish to follow up.
I note the closing "Brain Dump" and feel sure I know what you are implying, but in 'revisit' the Asian could take it, in speaking about a westerner, in a possible second context /
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