What is your definition of human rights, or a human's right? Does it differ from region to region, culture to culture? _________________ _____________________________________
Freedom from tyranny, freedom of worship,
freedom from false trial and imprisonment, freedom to vote for whomsoever one chose, freedom from foreign domination, presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
The right to the basics of life: water, food etc.
"Reasonable" living conditions commensurate with the status of the country concerned.
That is a start on what most would consider basic human rights. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
Thanks, Alan. You pretty much sum up my thoughts on it as well, and this reminds me of the old demagoguery between the 'Capitalists' and the 'Communists'.
One side says human rights are based on freedom of expression etc . . . while the other defined it as the right not to starve and have employment.
If there were one basic right to choose from, what would it be? _________________ _____________________________________
Freedom from tyranny, freedom from false trial and imprisonment, freedom from foreign domination, presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Slightly off topic, but under GW, the US has failed miserably in all mentioned aspects. (OK, so the freedom from foreign domination doesnt apply to those in the US, but it applies to others).
I am (slowly) writing a piece about the present state of "freedom" in the UK, and will post it here when it is done.
The speed, or lack thereof, reflects my workload so dont hold.
your breath waiting.
However, as a clue to content, there is a film just released which is set in the near future of a totalitarian Britain and a group of freedom fighters /terrorists who are trying to regain the civil liberties we used to have.
There are also a couple of fiction books on the ame topic.
A sure sign that some think the present situation worrying. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
[quote="Alan Stepney"]I am (slowly) writing a piece about the present state of "freedom" in the UK, and will post it here when it is done.
The speed, or lack thereof, reflects my workload so dont hold.
your breath waiting.
No problem, take your time!! BTW Alan, are you in the PI right now?
Not sure why I asked that, but I saw some gorgeous Filipinas the other day ... I guess that's why ... Yum yum yum
Alan Stepney wrote:
However, as a clue to content, there is a film just released which is set in the near future of a totalitarian Britain and a group of freedom fighters /terrorists who are trying to regain the civil liberties we used to have.
There are also a couple of fiction books on the ame topic.
A sure sign that some think the present situation worrying.
Yep, back on topic now - and of course it's probably just not the UK ... it's pretty much most "developed" Western nations (with the possible exception of Spain, Portugal and France (maybe the Scandanavian nations too???) - though I could well be wrong).
No, not in the Philippines right now, unfortunately.
Yes, there are some, many, gorgeous Filipinas!!
As for the "freedom" piece, almost finished the main part, so after some editing, will post it.
Probably have to be in sections. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
I should have been a bit more descriptive about the topic itself - what I was trying to get to was the Communist dogma of the right to shelter, education, food and work versus the Capitalist dogma of free speech, choice etc . . . _________________ _____________________________________
What about: "Human rights are rules rich countries impose on poor countries while they disregard those rules themselves"? _________________ Today in Phnom Penh!
"Human rights are rules rich countries impose on poor countries while they disregard those rules themselves"?
There is sometimes an element of this, but in general, human rights are fairly well established in most developed countries.
(Except that they are being taken away from those in the UK.) _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
There is sometimes an element of this, but in general, human rights are fairly well established in most developed countries.
As rich countries, they have better opportunities to so so. The power which big capital has over the media reduces the need to commit human rights violations.
Alan Stepney wrote:
(Except that they are being taken away from those in the UK.)
And in the US. And in other "developed" countries. Their respect for human rights is just a token respect, intended to mystify the devide between the wealthy and the oppressed. _________________ Today in Phnom Penh!
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(OK, so the freedom from foreign domination doesnt apply to those in the US, but it applies to others).
No problem, take your time!! BTW Alan, are you in the PI right now?
