Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:44 am Post subject: Prices
I'm going to be retireing in a couple years, so I have been looking at the Philippines as a potential destination. I was even considering taking flying lessons, figuring this would be a tiny fraction of the $7,000 it looks to cost in the US. Near as I can tell the total cost in the Philippines would be around $4,000 for a comparable package. And renting a plane seems hardly less expensive despite much cheaper maintence salaries. What you can rent for $100/hr in the seems to go for $85 in the Philippines. Are these prices for real or just another examble of the price negoiation that goes on in the Philippines?
I dont have any definate figures, but do know one guy who learned to fly there, as it is so much cheaper than in the UK.
Like everything, I would guess that the price can be negotiated.
However, were it me, I would want a western trained instructor, and as there are several ex-US airforce guys there, they should know what they are doing. (Too many Filipinos buy there qualifications / certificates, for me to trust them implicitly.) _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
There are 2 million Filipino Americans so almost each and every Filipino has relatives in the States.The weather is tropical meaning TWO seasons, WET & Dry but usually hot and humid similiar to Florida USA. Look for the yahoogroups "livinginthephilippines2"(and several others );the moderator Don Herrington lives in a 3 or 4 bedroom house in a gated community for maybe U$300 / month but there's plenty of townhouse style 2 bedroom units which rent for U$100 to U$150. I often answer the same question from many guys disatisfied with their lifestyle in the States so that they can live WELL on U$400 to U$700 / month. If you make more unearned income or have a pension of U$1000 to U$2000 then you can live "like a king" anywhere in the Philippines and still SAVE MORE than you ever could before living in such an expensive economy.
(dec 2005)
here are some trasport costs in the philippines.(philtranco bus lines) davao city to pasay in manila there are two buses a day
non aircon at 5.30am and air/con at 6.00am.
the non air/confiltered=1607 pesos
and the air/confiltered=2278 pesos.
you have two boats to pay a long the way.
surigao to liloan =130 pesos and allen to matnog = 80 pesos.
davao city to (tacloban city) which is a nice place to stop over costs = 907 pesos.
the bus takes 48 hours to get from davao to manila.
(wga ferries) which are the best boats in the philippines.
davao to maila cost from 1910 pesos
cebu to maila cost from 1150 pesos
iligan to manila cost from 1650 pesos
zamboanga to manila cost from 1330 pesos
you can book tickets on line with a visa card.
in all towns and citys in the philippines you can get a hotel for less than 500 pesos a night. _________________ Feel FREE to ask questions about living, traveling and investing in the S.E. Asia especially the Philippines. Click on "AsiaBill" to learn more from my website. Live life as an ADVENTURE- GO FOR IT!!
We had a British guy stay with us for a few months in the 90s who upgraded his private pilot's license he got in California to a commercial license. If I remember the stats correctly it was about U$45,000 in California and only U$14,000 in Manila for the commercial license and maybe 150+ hours of flying time.
If you email me at bill_lorna@yahoo.com in the next couple of weeks I can call the nearby flight school for the exact present costs by the hour; if I remeber right you need between 30 to 45 hours to get a basic pilot's license. I'm on Boracay Island at the moment but will be back in Manila next week. Cheers, Bill _________________ Feel FREE to ask questions about living, traveling and investing in the S.E. Asia especially the Philippines. Click on "AsiaBill" to learn more from my website. Live life as an ADVENTURE- GO FOR IT!!
I will add that Bill (& Lorna)'s place in Manila, The Townhouse, is one of the best for those who want somewhere close to the airport, which is cheap clean and friendly.
Ideal for anyone arriving one day who has an internal flight the following morning.
Not bad for anyone wanting a budget place in Manila either.
It has an excellent reputation, and I have yet to ehar any negative comments about it.. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
the moderator Don Herrington lives in a 3 or 4 bedroom house in a gated community for maybe U$300 / month but there's plenty of townhouse style 2 bedroom units which rent for U$100 to U$150. I often answer the same question from many guys disatisfied with their lifestyle in the States so that they can live WELL on U$400 to U$700 / month. If you make more unearned income or have a pension of U$1000 to U$2000 then you can live "like a king" anywhere in the Philippines and still SAVE MORE than you ever could before living in such an expensive economy.
in all towns and citys in the philippines you can get a hotel for less than 500 pesos a night.
Wow! Sounds like I DEFINITELY need to move to the Philippines. Life in China is getting a bit too expensive these days (but that was to expected). _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
I know two guys who are living in the Philippines and apparently, living well, on the British old age pension of around £110 ( = US$ 200) per week.
I have heard of people managing on less, as most of the locals do. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
I'm going to be retireing in a couple years, so I have been looking at the Philippines as a potential destination. I was even considering taking flying lessons, figuring this would be a tiny fraction of the $7,000 it looks to cost in the US.
I learned to fly in Hong Kong, and then completed my private pilot's license in Australia. I later went on to get a commercial license and multi-engine rating in Florida. I now live in Manila, and have flown here a few times.
If you're planning to learn to fly, I'd give you one piece of advice, and that's to do your training there in the US, regardless of any cost saving there may be elsewhere. The aviation business is similar to everything else in the Philippines. Corners are cut everywhere, rules are ignored, standards and quality have no meaning. The standards that you are first taught to fly to are the standards you will carry with you for the rest of the time you fly, and you should never compromise on that. Get your basic training done properly. After that, if you move to the Philippines, by all means continue flying here, but at least you will recognize what is being done right and what is being done wrong. If you do your training here you'll just accept bad practices as being normal.
He's right ... same applies to driving. This "cutting corners" and "anything can be gotten provided one pays the right amount" business is an Asian trait, I think (perhaps not ALL of Asia - HK/Japan would probably be the two exceptions).
In India, people who don't even know what a stick shift is can get licenses to drive trucks ... go figure. _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
He's right ... same applies to driving. This "cutting corners" and "anything can be gotten provided one pays the right amount" business is an Asian trait, I think (perhaps not ALL of Asia - HK/Japan would probably be the two exceptions).
In India, people who don't even know what a stick shift is can get licenses to drive trucks ... go figure.
Thats ok, but here in Chiang Mai [which is the 2nd city of Thailand and in the North about 400 of so miles North of Bankok] people can get a license that have never even sat in a car. Takes 500B and 2 photos and in a couple day your license is delivered.
talk about cutting corners.
PS You must be able to wash your car or motorcycle though.
He's right ... same applies to driving. This "cutting corners" and "anything can be gotten provided one pays the right amount" business is an Asian trait, I think (perhaps not ALL of Asia - HK/Japan would probably be the two exceptions).
In India, people who don't even know what a stick shift is can get licenses to drive trucks ... go figure.
Thats ok, but here in Chiang Mai [which is the 2nd city of Thailand and in the North about 400 of so miles North of Bankok] people can get a license that have never even sat in a car. Takes 500B and 2 photos and in a couple day your license is delivered.
talk about cutting corners.
PS You must be able to wash your car or motorcycle though.
In India you dont need to be able to wash your car or motorbike. You can hire someone to do it, or drive a dirty vehicle (with the pollution there, most vehicles get dirty anyway).
All you gotta do there is sign up for "driving lessons" with some "driving schools". You can take the lessons if you want, but you can just as well sit at home and drink beer ... so long as you pay, it's all good. Then you go to the "authorities" at the time your lessons are supposed to end, and they hand you a "temporary" license, and you can then drive (if you know/want) with a big L plate (old UK style). Then after a month or two weeks maybe ... you just go, take a "test" (which you can pass/fail) - and then they hand you a license after standing in a queue for two hours or so (you can hire someone to stand also). Note though that you need the "driving school" guy to be there so he can deal with it when you fail the test .
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