I sort of suspect UK, US, Canada, Australia, NZ (and perhaps RSA) passport holders won't face any problems ... in China, it's only passport holders from nations other than those mentioned above that face problems. _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
I have a work permit and get yearly visas so it wont effect me.
If they try to stop the visa run crowd they are just shooting themselves in the foot-as these people spend lots of money here.
This proposal effects visa on arrival so people will still have the option of getting other types of visas--i hope _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
I have a work permit and get yearly visas so it wont effect me.
Yes, used to have that myself ...
Mike wrote:
If they try to stop the visa run crowd they are just shooting themselves in the foot-as these people spend lots of money here.
Agree ... same case with China - a lot of people wangling tourist or business visas may not pay tax, but they do help the local economy a lot .
Mike wrote:
This proposal effects visa on arrival so people will still have the option of getting other types of visas--i hope
Ha, fat chance (at least in China) if you dont hold a passport from one of the "developed" nations ... _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
All you need for China (if you have no job here) is to bring $15,000 with you to invest in any Chinese company (as a business interest of course) and you can pretty much set your self up for life here.
You'll get the residence permit and work visas easily or just grease the palm of your local immigration beurocrat, (everyone in China is corruptable) _________________
All you need for China (if you have no job here) is to bring $15,000 with you to invest in any Chinese company (as a business interest of course) and you can pretty much set your self up for life here.
You'll get the residence permit and work visas easily or just grease the palm of your local immigration beurocrat, (everyone in China is corruptable)
lol yup I guess you could do that ... China's also offering "green cards" for those who're married to Chinese citizens for over 5 years - guess I need to get on the ball?
Other than the $15,000 solution though, another possible way may be to go to HK and pay some travel agents inflated prices to get something done. They claim it's possible - let's see. _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
All you need for China (if you have no job here) is to bring $15,000 with you to invest in any Chinese company (as a business interest of course) and you can pretty much set your self up for life here.
You'll get the residence permit and work visas easily or just grease the palm of your local immigration beurocrat, (everyone in China is corruptable)
lol yup I guess you could do that ... China's also offering "green cards" for those who're married to Chinese citizens for over 5 years - guess I need to get on the ball?
Other than the $15,000 solution though, another possible way may be to go to HK and pay some travel agents inflated prices to get something done. They claim it's possible - let's see.
So long as you have the currency and enough of it, yep, it's more than possible _________________
All you need for China (if you have no job here) is to bring $15,000 with you to invest in any Chinese company (as a business interest of course) and you can pretty much set your self up for life here.
You'll get the residence permit and work visas easily or just grease the palm of your local immigration beurocrat, (everyone in China is corruptable)
lol yup I guess you could do that ... China's also offering "green cards" for those who're married to Chinese citizens for over 5 years - guess I need to get on the ball?
Other than the $15,000 solution though, another possible way may be to go to HK and pay some travel agents inflated prices to get something done. They claim it's possible - let's see.
So long as you have the currency and enough of it, yep, it's more than possible
Can't conjure up the 15grand, but might could do something about what the HK travel agents need.
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble
Well, but not everyone would want to stay "underground" (I would not, I'm sure of that).
When you leave the country, they can see your visa's expired ... So, thing is, you can stay caged in the country.
Of course, you can develop some good connections while your at it, which would resolve the whole problem. guanxi, as they say in China, is KEY . _________________ Dongguan Expat - Your online Community!
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble
Well, but not everyone would want to stay "underground" (I would not, I'm sure of that).
When you leave the country, they can see your visa's expired ... So, thing is, you can stay caged in the country.
Of course, you can develop some good connections while your at it, which would resolve the whole problem. guanxi, as they say in China, is KEY .
good connections will get you nowhere without money-and if you have money you can go out and came back legally--there are lots of people living on the edge who cannot afford the extra expense this new new regulation will incur _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble
Well, but not everyone would want to stay "underground" (I would not, I'm sure of that).
When you leave the country, they can see your visa's expired ... So, thing is, you can stay caged in the country.
Of course, you can develop some good connections while your at it, which would resolve the whole problem. guanxi, as they say in China, is KEY .
good connections will get you nowhere without money-and if you have money you can go out and came back legally--there are lots of people living on the edge who cannot afford the extra expense this new new regulation will incur
According to your latest post though (the 90 day post), one can't keep going out and coming back in indefenitely ...
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble
Well, but not everyone would want to stay "underground" (I would not, I'm sure of that).
When you leave the country, they can see your visa's expired ... So, thing is, you can stay caged in the country.
Of course, you can develop some good connections while your at it, which would resolve the whole problem. guanxi, as they say in China, is KEY .
good connections will get you nowhere without money-and if you have money you can go out and came back legally--there are lots of people living on the edge who cannot afford the extra expense this new new regulation will incur
According to your latest post though (the 90 day post), one can't keep going out and coming back in indefenitely ...
Agree that the expense is a problem. I'm myself having to deal with this same type of thing ...
Thats right--thats when they wil have to decide to stay away for 3 1/2 months or just not go out and go underground--another option--go and hang out in a cheap country for a few weeks until you can get a new visa for thailand _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
I think this is going to force more people underground as they know if they leave they will not be allowed back in--and they have nowhere to go--its exactly the opposite effect that the government wants.
basically if you stay out of trouble you can overstay your visa as long as you want. I have been heer for 23 years and i cant remember anytime wnen the police asked for my passport-- (except that one time in the hilltribe village) and you just need to say that you did not bring it with you-just stay out of trouble
Well, but not everyone would want to stay "underground" (I would not, I'm sure of that).
When you leave the country, they can see your visa's expired ... So, thing is, you can stay caged in the country.
Of course, you can develop some good connections while your at it, which would resolve the whole problem. guanxi, as they say in China, is KEY .
good connections will get you nowhere without money-and if you have money you can go out and came back legally--there are lots of people living on the edge who cannot afford the extra expense this new new regulation will incur
According to your latest post though (the 90 day post), one can't keep going out and coming back in indefenitely ...
Agree that the expense is a problem. I'm myself having to deal with this same type of thing ...
Thats right--thats when they wil have to decide to stay away for 3 1/2 months or just not go out and go underground--another option--go and hang out in a cheap country for a few weeks until you can get a new visa for thailand
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