Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: Waiting in line (not)
I just need to vent a little bit here.
Why do the Chinese refuse to wait in line? It doesn't matter where you are..... bank, hospital, post office, whatever. The last person in the door is always nudging their way to the front of the line. My (Chinese) wife gets mad at me when I say something about it, but it really drives me nuts. I keep reminding myself that I'm just a visitor here, so I should go with the flow (when in Rome.....). But why the hell can't the Chinese learn to wait in line?
Hey, that venting must have worked, I feel better already. Unfortunately, I have to go to the bank this afternoon. _________________ If you don't like the way that they drive over here, then stay off the sidewalk!
I hate that also--its no so bad in Thailand but they still do it.
part of it could be the chinese rush to fortune
they dont want to waste a second
i have some chinese ask me for help at work sometimes-they ask via a chat program-if i say I have no answer--they dont even say bye-just gone as soon as they see no relief _________________ Asia Expats Forum Expat Friends Dating
1. Just shove your way through the line (not like you can understand their expletives and protests any way) You'll enjoy a 50% success rate with this one.
2. An elbow to the ribs often causes offence, followed by the sharp intake of breath. ( it won't get you any closer to the front of the queue, infact you'll be farther back, but you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you made the sucker pay for this outrageous behaviour).
3. Learn some choice (Local Dialect) curse words. (works a treat every time, some jaws will drop to the floor on hearing a 'Lao wai' speaking the local dialect, others will be shocked and your intended victim quite ashamed and humiliated by your outburst. Some will insist that you go ahead of them in the queue). _________________
Maybe a Chinese person needs to answer your question, because i have no clue either why they can never wait in line. Ive been in China for like almost three years now, but i still don t get it... And though i love the Chinese, i do refer to mainland China as the Wild West of the East. _________________ Http://www.arnoudforyou.com
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: Waiting in Line in China
Without looking at your name I knew you were from the US (so am I). But, you are what is wrong with us when we go overseas. Why do people from the US think that their culture is the only way to act? This is China, Chinese do not wait patiently in lines, that is part of a culture much older than the US culture. You don't see them getting perturbed, do you? Of course not.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: Rude is rude in ANY country
It is not an American thing that makes us foreigners upset about the Chinese behavior to push through a line. It is simply rude in all countries (except China) and should not be an excuse to say it is ok to do so.
Essentially Chinese people are generally very self centered and never consider another persons feelings in public. A people's conduct and interactions with each other is the benchmark to identifying a country's culture and education. To say China has done this for thousands of years does not exempt it from the fact that it is not a civilized way of acting or should be tolerated. You know it is required now that Chinese people who travel outside China must take lessons on general etiquette. Even in Thailand you can find many hotels that will not allow Chinese guests because of their behavior. Spitting, talking loudly, pushing are offensive and disgusting behaviors and the Chinese need to take the time to educate their children and stop these habits. If China wants to be a part of the real world now, then step up to the plate and make basic public manners part of your culture as well.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Some Chinese logic
Mike wrote:
" .... i have some chinese ask me for help at work sometimes-they ask via a chat program-if i say I have no answer--they dont even say bye-just gone as soon as they see no relief ..."
It is not really a (mainland) Chinese thing to even say thanks to family or friends, Mike. Thanking someone implies indebtedness (not gratitude) to them. In your case, they are merely "trying their luck" by seeking assistance. If you can't help then, it is their bad luck. _________________ EXPAT IN CHINA
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Waiting in Line in China
almet wrote:
Without looking at your name I knew you were from the US (so am I). But, you are what is wrong with us when we go overseas. Why do people from the US think that their culture is the only way to act? This is China, Chinese do not wait patiently in lines, that is part of a culture much older than the US culture. You don't see them getting perturbed, do you? Of course not.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
I am a Chinese, but not from the mainland, thanks goodness.
I hate attitude like yours. Why must it always be a cultural thing when something is criticized? No culture is perfect and if a civilization insist on keeping the flaws simply because it has been done for millennium, then it will never improve!
Besides, you must have heard of the saying "no man is an island". Just take it one step further - "no nation is an island". If China does not want to change itself, then it shouldn't opened itself up to the world. Stay closed, like the paradise they called North Korea. _________________ Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely!
Standing in line is unusual in the Philippines, as it is in some of the southern European countries.
Even in the UK, it is a recent phenomona, dating back to compulsory queues during WW2, when the Govt made queue-jumping illegal.
The best advice is to accept what a country is like, and live with it, rather than worrying about trivial issues. _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: Where does spitting fit in?
I would be interested to hear a Chinese explain the habit/custom of spitting. I've tried to figure this one out and I can come to only one conclusion. If you observe their "technique" for this function, it involves two parts. First there is the loud guttural throat clearing, fluid gathering sound they make in preparation for the the actual launching of spit. From young women to grown men, this sound is surprisingly loud and disgusting in itself. Is it a warning to others around them that an eruption is immanent? Then there is the spit itself. It must be shot out with "passion" upon the street or person who is caught in it's path. Does this part function like a dog marking it's territory?
Even while eating in a restaurant it is not uncommon to see this! I tried an experiment to compare the level of social significance Chinese place on this ritual. After I sat in the restaurant and watched the spit custom, I let rip quite a loud fan pe. I would liken the reaction of the patrons around me the same as westerners reacting to the spitting. Interesting reaction to me really. I only left gas behind, not a slimy puddle of goo to step on or have to look at while I eat. I guess this is also ok since it has been practiced for thousands of years a s well. Anybody have thoughts on this one?
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Where does spitting fit in?
jackh wrote:
... Anybody have thoughts on this one?
Yep, repulsive!!
However, I aint gonna try to stop 'em.
Theres more of them than me.! _________________ The Middle Eastern states aren't nations; they're quarrels with borders.- P. J. O'Rourke
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